What you need to know about WordPress 5.9
With WordPress 5.9 just around the corner, we know you have questions, concerns. A lot of noise is being made about full-site editing, block-based themes, and the future changes happening with WordPress. I’m writing today to help reassure the Kadence community in light of these changes and inform you of what to expect when updating your WordPress sites. I’ll also give some insights about the longer-term impact of full-site editing in WordPress.
Quick overview
- WordPress 5.9 will be released on January 25, 2022.
- The major feature in WordPress 5.9 is core supporting full-site editing block-based themes.
- Other new features include updates to the block editor UI with better controls and a new core navigation block. If you are interested in a complete list and more details, WP Tavern has some good content to browse.
- The Kadence Theme will not enable WordPress core’s full-site editing by default.
Quick 5.9 Take away
I recommend waiting a few days after 5.9 is released before you choose to update your WordPress site. This is not a security release, so there is no need to rush to install it. Give some time for potential bugs and conflicts to be found and fixed before you update your production sites. If you are using a staging server to test updates, we recommend performing updates there first to determine WordPress 5.9’s impact on your site in a non-production environment.
If you are using the Kadence Theme, you will not experience any changes. None of the new features for full-site editing will be enabled by default. You will see the updates to the block editor (moving blocks in the list view is great!), and if you desire, you will be able to create templates in the site editor for pages/posts.
Full-site editing in its current phase is a minimum viable product (MVP). I do not recommend that you switch to using it for production sites. Unless you are wanting to experiment for fun, I don’t suggest anyone with a complex site use full-site editing upon the initial WordPress 5.9 release. Currently, the promise of editing anything on your site is limited by the available tools and options. This means that most complex things are still not possible in full-site editing simply because complex tools/features have not been created/implemented in blocks yet. Also, most plugins that use custom post types don’t support it yet (e.g., WooCommerce). The plugins will function properly, however, they won’t be giving you any extra control.
You don’t need WordPress 5.9 or a full-site editing block-based theme to fully edit your site. You can do this now in Kadence using the pro addon which allows you to create templates and hook in elements conditionally anywhere on your site.
What I’m most excited about in 5.9
Without a doubt, I am most excited by the list view improvements! The block editor has presented some challenges when users have tried to move things around. This lack of block mobility has been a major pain point for some, but with the new list view improvements, you can drag blocks around right in the list view. This will make moving blocks in the WordPress editor so much easier.
What is full-site editing?
Full-site editing is the next stage in Gutenberg development towards Gutenberg being the entire editing experience in WordPress. It allows you to build all the parts of your site with the Gutenberg editor, if your theme enables this functionality. Headers, navigation, archives, post templates are all editable portions of a WordPress page and anything can be edited. However, while anything can be edited, it doesn’t necessarily mean anything can be done. You are limited by what available blocks you have and those block features/settings.
How can I edit my full site right now?
Kadence Theme has a pro addon that adds the ability to create templates and apply them conditionally to different areas of your site. For example, if you have a custom post type and you would like to design a unique layout for that custom post type, you can easily do this with Kadence Elements. Our good friends at Restrict Content Pro have used this to set up their single addons pages. Addons is a custom post type in their backend, and they are applying a template to create their design. Using a template like this allows them to pull in custom fields as well as the post content to populate the page. Kadence Blocks Pro adds in all the dynamic content controls.
Another powerful feature in Kadence Elements is the ability to hook sections of content anywhere on your site in any post, all conditionally. This means if you want to add something but don’t want to rebuild a template, you can hook it into an existing template. While you can use any hook, Kadence already includes hook examples for WooCommerce, LearnDash, and many others.
Will Kadence Theme support WordPress core’s block-based, full-site editing?
Yes! We are working on a version of the Kadence Theme which will allow you to enable full-site editing if you choose. This will not be released the day WordPress 5.9 is. I currently expect this option to be available a couple of weeks after 5.9 is released. However, note that I won’t recommend this for production sites as full-site editing is still too early in development. In my opinion, the full-site editing experience is still very clunky to use, but I expect this to mature over time.
Full-site editing, the way WordPress core achieves it, is a very different approach from what WordPress users are familiar with. Under Appearance in the admin navigation of WordPress, you will be missing Customizer, Menus and Widgets. Instead, you have the new site editor.
Inside the site editor, you can control your site templates or open the style editor to choose fonts, colors, etc. Because everything will be block-based, almost all of your settings will then be determined inside individual blocks used inside the templates.
For those curious, I certainly suggest creating a staging environment where you can play around, experiment, and decide for yourself what you think of full-site editing. However, before you get too critical, remember this is a minimum viable product. Now that a foundation is laid a lot can be added and improved on. I am personally excited about the possibilities.
If you are wondering, I don’t believe full-site editing block-based themes will be for everyone, and I don’t see this as the end of traditional themes. I believe both systems will exist for the foreseeable future and Kadence plans on developing for both systems.
Please reach out if you have any questions!
-Ben Ritner
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Written by Ben Ritner
Ben Ritner is the Sr. Director of Product at StellarWP and the founder of Kadence WP. Ben builds innovative tools that empower individuals and small businesses to compete with major corporations on the web. He creates comprehensive tutorials that guide users through WordPress, enabling them to build effective and engaging websites. His expertise in product development, strategy, and marketing drives innovation and success for users worldwide.
26 responses to “What you need to know about WordPress 5.9”
Very interesting!
I’ve played around with full-site editing and agree, it’s very clunky – I can’t image the average person being able to easily navigate around and get it to work.
I’ve been using Kadence for a while now and absolutely love it, always recommend it to everyone. Thanks!
Great overview on what to expect and what to NOT do. So happy I jumped on the Kadence bandwagon last year – it was the best decision ever!
Hi Ben,
thank you very much for this valuable insight into the mechanisms of the block-based editing.I still can’t get my head around how to configure the site without the customizer since crucial header- and footer-editing takes place there. Having Typography in one place to configure for the whole site as well as the colors seems to be the way to go, too. But I am curious how this evolves and what we will use in some years from now.
WordPress did some interesting turns in the past and continually changed over the years. When the customizer appeared I was shocked at first because everything I knew so far was turned upside down. It was a pain to use in the early stage. Now I like it and can’t imagine how it was back in the days when every theme had it’s own design-menu…
Time will tell.
I’m very glad that I could switch most of my sites to Kadence. Some of them I even rebuilt without Beaver Builder, that I used for a very long time. No-WYSIWYG-Editing in Gutenberg still has it’s flaws though, but I think this will get better over time and finally be as smooth as with the PageBuilders we use today.
Can’t wait for the “move blocks in the list view”-Feature in 5.9, however. That’s something I miss deeply since I had this in every PageBuilder I used so far. Thank you, WordPress Developers 🙂
And a thanks to you, Kadence Team, for the ongoing support and improvements of your Theme and the Kadence Blocks. The Image-Block for example was something I really enjoy having around.
Yours,
Peter.Thank you for this post, and specifically for clarifying how full-site editing will mesh with Kadence. This is useful and reassuring information!
I’m a non techie who picked up Divi in my late 60’s then just recently, at 72, tried Kadence and Gutenberg Blocks and love the way it works…
If I understand correctly, what you are saying here, is that if i’m using Kadence and Kadence bocks, leave 5.9 alone until somebody more knowledgable than me says go for itI’ll be waiting for a bit before using FSE in a production environment on a live site, but I’ll definitely start playing with it on test sites so I can watch it grow! Gutenberg in 2019 wasn’t ready for my production sites upon launch, but playing with it back then made me ready for all that Kadence and Kadence Blocks brings to the table.
Thanks for helping to explain everything.
Nice one Ben. Glad you’re still leading the Kadence team.
I’ve been beta testing FSE for the last few weeks. It is truly not anywhere close to being ready. It is indeed extremely clunky to use and nowhere near as powerful as what other builders/themes currently offer. Anyone who is worried that FSE will kill traditional themes should just use FSE for a few minutes and you’ll quickly realize that traditional themes aren’t going anywhere for now. I appreciate the WordPress developers for making this attempt but it is still several major versions away from being useful in any of my projects. Not regretting my Kadence purchase at all. Keep cranking out those updates and new features! Thanks all.
Thank you for this detailed explanation especially about full site editing. I’m excited to see what great features we will discover and where the journey goes, both with WordPress, as well as with Kadence WP.
Many greetings,
Stefan (itsourdailylife.com)Great post waiting for Full site editing on kadence, and going to dump page builder…
I have tested WordPress 5.9 RC and all I can say is that Ben is absolutely correct in his view on what’s going on and what’s needs to be done. It’s a good reason that the WordPress team is not calling this WordPress 6.0. I’m looking forward to a Kadence Block-based theme to build my next generation’s websites on, because I know it will be great. Thanks, Ben 🙂
Thanks Ben for your calm and reassuring view on 5.9 and how you and the team at Kadence are approaching the update to FSE.
Awesome can’t wait – the drag and drop functionality is just what I was hoping for !
As far as speed, it has been proven that pages built with blocks are inherently faster than most, if not all current page builders. I also believe that with each iteration, there are benchmarks that are tested against in order to try and improve performance.
I am not tech savvy at all and I am wondering if I need to stop the update because my website is set up to update itself. How do I check to make sure everything is okay?
If you’re using Kadence, you should be okay with the update. FSE won’t be enabled at this time. Always a good idea to ensure you have a backup process in place for any updating.
Helpful post. Very happy with all the work the KadenceWP team is doing. Also, the RCP site looks great!
With WP 5.9 where do I change post author? It used to be on side column. And I don’t want post author sited below content, just where it was before.
Hi Sharon, I see that under the page attributes under status & visibility, there is a drop down for assigning the author. It used to be easy to do a “quick edit” and change author, but I see that isn’t there now in my WP5.9 site.
Hi there,
You said to wait a few days before updating. It’s now Feb 25 as I type this. Do you think it’s safe to update to the latest version?
I’m a little concerned because I saw a question/comment on a WordPress forum from a blogger who claimed WordPress 5.9 isn’t compatible with Kadence blocks?
Thanks,
Ang 🙂WordPress 5.9.1 was released earlier this week with a number of bug fixes to both the block editor and WordPress core. It is most likely safe to update with many bug fixes applied. As always, take a backup of your site before any major update is applied to your site! And Kadence Blocks is fully compatible with WordPress 5.9 as well as 5.9.1. Our development team watches all core releases closely and ensures compatibility with all WordPress updates.
When will your themes be added to full-site editing, because customizer will be deprecated sooner or later
This is a part of our overall product roadmap, however FSE is not ready for full implementation at this time. Thanks for your question!
take a backup of your site before any major update is applied to your site! And Kadence Blocks is fully compatible with WordPress 5.9 as well as 5.9.1. Our development team watches all core releases closely and
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Ben Ritner is the Sr. Director of Product at StellarWP and the founder of Kadence WP. Ben builds innovative tools that empower individuals and small businesses to compete with major corporations on the web. He creates comprehensive tutorials that guide users through WordPress, enabling them to build effective and engaging websites. His expertise in product development, strategy, and marketing drives innovation and success for users worldwide.
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Well-written post, Ben. I appreciate all your hard work and valuable insight. My friend Rob Cairns has helped keep me up to speed with FSE and Kadence. He has seen some really great speed improvements and functionality. Keep up the great work 🙂